After The Anchor Podcast is a peer-led healing community for people who’ve lived through hard things, faced themselves, and decided to do the work anyway. It’s not about what happened before; it’s about what came after.
What happens when accountability feels more like an attack?
In this conversation, Owen and I get into DARVO. The pattern of denying, attacking, and reversing the roles of victim and offender when someone is confronted about their behavior. But the conversation quickly becomes bigger than the acronym itself. We talk about why some people struggle so much with being called out, whether men are more likely to respond with anger or defensiveness, and how emotional suppression can make accountability even harder.
Owen also gets personal about growing up with a father who struggled to take accountability, how that affected him, and what changed once those conversations finally started happening. We also get into narcissism, relationships, the way men and women handle conflict differently, and an important question: when conflict happens, are we looking at the other person’s behavior without looking at our own?
It’s an honest conversation about ego, defensiveness, anger, relationships, and learning how to actually own your part when things get uncomfortable.







